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Jon Morrow

the capitalist system our healthcare labors to function under does not place the health of the people of our country first. the medical industry has lobbyists representing their interests. the pharmacuetical industry has lobbyists representing their interests. the insurance industry has lobbyists representing their interests. the people of this country have politicians who are nearly all regularly bribed by all of the aforementioned groups while alleging their fealty to the people. we have tried to stiffly regulate the capitalist medical system to force good, reasonable, affordable healthcare for the citizenry and the corporations involved only use every regulation as an excuse to increase costs. with the seizure of freddie and fannie this week the federal government effectively underwrites the entire banking system of the united states of america because the greedy banks could not control themselves. why shouldn't the government take over healthcare so the people of our country no longer have to have their health held hostage by the greedy industries extorting us for healthcare for our children. capitalism has become worse than big government in our country and is destroying us. we as a people need to realize that capitalism is not God, to be spoke of in revered terms. it is an economic system that leads to efficiency but must be restrained by the morality of its participants. in america today capitalism is out of hand. we are dieing from it and we still can't admit that we may need to do things differently.

HEIDI LOCKRIDGE

Jon:

Please capitalize your paragraphs. It makes it hard to read (I am not trying to be rude, honest).

Our government has a knack of messing up a lot of things - you pointed that out with your comments about the banking industry bail out etc.

For me it does not make sense for the government to take over health care as you suggest. Health care is not a right. It is a perk. Right or wrong as that is it is not written anywhere that we as Americans get health care coverage.

It needs to be fixed but I don't think more government involvement is the answer.

Jon Morrow

heidi, i regret that my lack of capitization is off-putting to you. i am a six digit typist and can type quite quickly so long as i stear clear of the shift keys. e.e. cummings did it and he is revered as one of the great poets of our language. please blame mr. cummings and forgive my imitation. i said nothing of healthcare being a right. our government does all kinds of things that have nothing to do with our rights. if the whole of a people demand the assistance of government, the government has very little choice but to assist its people. government exists to serve the people. we dynamically define what that service is. that is why our forefathers brilliantly made our constitution in such a manner that it is considered to be a living and breathing document. yes, i agree with you that our government can mess things up. i would hold that any group made up of humans eventually screws up whatever it is that they do. indeed, i believe that all systems work towards their own demise. in regards to good governance this led our forefathers to install a system of checks and balances so that when one part of our government started screwing up, another branch would correct the wayward son. i do not think that capitalism is a dirty word. i believe that capitalism is the most effective general method for economic efficiency. however, as a nation we hold capitalism to be something akin to a religion and that it is sacrosanct to suggest unbridled capitalism is not serving the people well. i do not think that nationalizing the healthcare industry is the end all solution to our healthcare crisis, but i have no problem with the idea of cutting off the head of the snake that is currently biting me. at least i am o.k. for the moment and can carefully examine the underbrush in my environment and plan how i will attempt to keep the next snake from sinking its teeth in. our government could give us this reprieve of 5, 10 or twenty years if necessary. when allowed to reenter the market, the corporate world would be much more careful about how they treated the people they were serving. if our government actually performed efficiently for a longer term, fine. the postal service did great for a couple hundred years though the private sector is kicking its derriere now. GRAND FINALE: my point is that when capitalism has run amok and divorces itself from morality and is abuseing the very people it should be working for, government is the check and balance that should correct the amorality.

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heidi, i regret that my lack of capitization is off-putting to you. i am a six digit typist and can type quite quickly so long as i stear clear of the shift keys. e.e. cummings did it and he is revered as one of the great poets of our language. please blame mr. cummings and forgive my imitation. i said nothing of healthcare being a right. our government does all kinds of things that have nothing to do with our rights. if the whole of a people demand the assistance of government, the government has very little choice but to assist its people. government exists to serve the people. we dynamically define what that service is. that is why our forefathers brilliantly made our constitution in such a manner that it is considered to be a living and breathing document. yes, i agree with you that our government can mess things up. i would hold that any group made up of humans eventually screws up whatever it is that they do. indeed, i believe that all systems work towards their own demise. in regards to good governance this led our forefathers to install a system of checks and balances so that when one part of our government started screwing up, another branch would correct the wayward son. i do not think that capitalism is a dirty word. i believe that capitalism is the most effective general method for economic efficiency. however, as a nation we hold capitalism to be something akin to a religion and that it is sacrosanct to suggest unbridled capitalism is not serving the people well. i do not think that nationalizing the healthcare industry is the end all solution to our healthcare crisis, but i have no problem with the idea of cutting off the head of the snake that is currently biting me. at least i am o.k. for the moment and can carefully examine the underbrush in my environment and plan how i will attempt to keep the next snake from sinking its teeth in. our government could give us this reprieve of 5, 10 or twenty years if necessary. when allowed to reenter the market, the corporate world would be much more careful about how they treated the people they were serving. if our government actually performed efficiently for a longer term, fine. the postal service did great for a couple hundred years though the private sector is kicking its derriere now. GRAND FINALE: my point is that when capitalism has run amok and divorces itself from morality and is abuseing the very people it should be working for, government is the check and balance that should correct the amorality.

-1

Not even going to waste time reading your post.

Don't apologize just stop doing it.

-1

Touche`

Topics	Replies	Author	Last Post
Re: forget insurance, nationalize healthcare for citizens Jon: Please capitalize your paragraphs. It makes it hard to read (I am not trying to be rude, honest). Our government has a knack of messing up a lot of things - you pointed that out with your comments about the banking industry bail out etc. For me it does not make sense for the government to take over health care as you suggest. Health care is not a right. It is a perk. Right or wrong as that is it is not written anywhere that we as Americans get health care coverage. It needs to be fixed but I don't think more government involvement is the answer.	-1	HEIDI LOCKRIDGE
Re: forget insurance, nationalize hea... heidi, i regret that my lack of capitization is off-putting to you. i am a six digit typist and can type quite quickly so long as i stear clear of the shift keys. e.e. cummings did it and he is revered as one of the great poets of our language. please blame mr. cummings and forgive my imitation. i said nothing of healthcare being a right. our government does all kinds of things that have nothing to do with our rights. if the whole of a people demand the assistance of government, the government has very little choice but to assist its people. government exists to serve the people. we dynamically define what that service is. that is why our forefathers brilliantly made our constitution in such a manner that it is considered to be a living and breathing document. yes, i agree with you that our government can mess things up. i would hold that any group made up of humans eventually screws up whatever it is that they do. indeed, i believe that all systems work towards their own demise. in regards to good governance this led our forefathers to install a system of checks and balances so that when one part of our government started screwing up, another branch would correct the wayward son. i do not think that capitalism is a dirty word. i believe that capitalism is the most effective general method for economic efficiency. however, as a nation we hold capitalism to be something akin to a religion and that it is sacrosanct to suggest unbridled capitalism is not serving the people well. i do not think that nationalizing the healthcare industry is the end all solution to our healthcare crisis, but i have no problem with the idea of cutting off the head of the snake that is currently biting me. at least i am o.k. for the moment and can carefully examine the underbrush in my environment and plan how i will attempt to keep the next snake from sinking its teeth in. our government could give us this reprieve of 5, 10 or twenty years if necessary. when allowed to reenter the market, the corporate world would be much more careful about how they treated the people they were serving. if our government actually performed efficiently for a longer term, fine. the postal service did great for a couple hundred years though the private sector is kicking its derriere now. GRAND FINALE: my point is that when capitalism has run amok and divorces itself from morality and is abuseing the very people it should be working for, government is the check and balance that should correct the amorality.	-1	Jon Morrow	09/09 10:59 am
Re: forget insurance, nationalize hea... Not even going to waste time reading your post. Don't apologize just stop doing it.	-1	HEIDI LOCKRIDGE	09/09 4:27 pm
Re: forget insurance, nationalize hea... Touche`	-1	W.G. Kenney	09/09 9:49 pm

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